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One thing you're missing here: Craigslist started charging for the Adult Services section at the request of previous Attorneys General with the idea that adding a charge that required a credit card would curtail the use of the section for illegal activities.
http://www.scattorneygeneral.com/newsroom/pdf/2009/craigslist.pdf
Posted by: Collin |
September 8, 2010 6:04 PMAh! Makes sense. Updating the post. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Posted by: Adrianne Jeffries |
September 8, 2010 6:14 PMI'm baffled as to why craigslist didn't see the profit issue ahead of time. I'm 100% behind them, but raking in millions just doesn't look good, and makes them an easy target. From day one of charging for Adult Services, they should have been giving 100% of that money to organizations that work to prevent sex trafficking and child prostitution, to make it 100% clear that the money was for filtering, not for profit.
Posted by: Brad Weikel |
September 8, 2010 6:17 PMI think this is a good thing to do for Craiglist. But I bet that some thousands or maybe millions of dollars will be taken out from earnings in the industry with Craiglist ready to censor. LOL. Thanks for the info.
Posted by: WebHosting Guru |
September 8, 2010 7:09 PMI'm baffled how an article on ReadWriteWeb could miss the obvious question of free speech on the internet.
What you have here is public officials (facing re-election) using their office as a pulpit, making legal threats they know to be unenforceable, and lying to the media in order to prohibit speech which they know to be legal. State AGs are literally using a public relations campaign to circumvent an Act of Congress intended to curtail their power against just *this* kind of electioneering. That the AGs happen to be exploiting victimized children in their media campaign is almost incidental to the larger attack on the law and Constitution.
The Communications Decency Act protects electronic publishers from liability for content produced by users of the system. Absent that immunity there could be no Google, no Blogspot, no Facebook, no WordPress.com, no Digg or Reddit, no Twitter and no comments (like this one) on ReadWriteWeb.
The moralistic campaigns against 4chan and craigslist all lead to one inevitable conclusion: the publishers of ReadWriteWeb will be criminally and civilly liable for the comments of this community.
Here's a concept that's new: Has anyone ever substantiated the claims that Craigslist has ever been used for child or human trafficking? Is there even one demonstrable case of this occurring? If not, then the site may have just established millions of dollars in damages for a defamation suit against it's detractors. Yes, Craigslist is a public person, that doesn't mean they can't be defamed: they just have to prove damages.
Posted by: Baffled |
September 8, 2010 10:04 PMMobile phone carriers should be banned to provide a phone number to prostitutes as they are also making tons of money from an illegale activity.
Same thing for people selling cloth, sex toys, etc.
Posted by: idont |
September 9, 2010 9:21 AMOne thing you're missing here: Craigslist started charging for the Adult Services section at the request of previous Attorneys General with the idea that adding a charge that required a credit card would curtail the use of the section for illegal activities.
http://www.scattorneygeneral.com/newsroom/pdf/2009/craigslist.pdf
Posted by: Collin |
September 8, 2010 6:04 PMAh! Makes sense. Updating the post. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Posted by: Adrianne Jeffries |
September 8, 2010 6:14 PMI'm baffled as to why craigslist didn't see the profit issue ahead of time. I'm 100% behind them, but raking in millions just doesn't look good, and makes them an easy target. From day one of charging for Adult Services, they should have been giving 100% of that money to organizations that work to prevent sex trafficking and child prostitution, to make it 100% clear that the money was for filtering, not for profit.
Posted by: Brad Weikel |
September 8, 2010 6:17 PMI think this is a good thing to do for Craiglist. But I bet that some thousands or maybe millions of dollars will be taken out from earnings in the industry with Craiglist ready to censor. LOL. Thanks for the info.
Posted by: WebHosting Guru |
September 8, 2010 7:09 PMI'm baffled how an article on ReadWriteWeb could miss the obvious question of free speech on the internet.
What you have here is public officials (facing re-election) using their office as a pulpit, making legal threats they know to be unenforceable, and lying to the media in order to prohibit speech which they know to be legal. State AGs are literally using a public relations campaign to circumvent an Act of Congress intended to curtail their power against just *this* kind of electioneering. That the AGs happen to be exploiting victimized children in their media campaign is almost incidental to the larger attack on the law and Constitution.
The Communications Decency Act protects electronic publishers from liability for content produced by users of the system. Absent that immunity there could be no Google, no Blogspot, no Facebook, no WordPress.com, no Digg or Reddit, no Twitter and no comments (like this one) on ReadWriteWeb.
The moralistic campaigns against 4chan and craigslist all lead to one inevitable conclusion: the publishers of ReadWriteWeb will be criminally and civilly liable for the comments of this community.
Here's a concept that's new: Has anyone ever substantiated the claims that Craigslist has ever been used for child or human trafficking? Is there even one demonstrable case of this occurring? If not, then the site may have just established millions of dollars in damages for a defamation suit against it's detractors. Yes, Craigslist is a public person, that doesn't mean they can't be defamed: they just have to prove damages.
Posted by: Baffled |
September 8, 2010 10:04 PMMobile phone carriers should be banned to provide a phone number to prostitutes as they are also making tons of money from an illegale activity.
Same thing for people selling cloth, sex toys, etc.
Posted by: idont |
September 9, 2010 9:21 AM
Does respecting the opinions of others include despising others, of implying that others will be at fault if the awful Rethugs, whom Obama has been, you will recall, courting with “bipartisanship”?
Does respect entail telling us that what we saw, in print, of Obama’s clear promises, what we heard with our own ears, of Obama’s promises, an Obama many worked for thinking that, as a black man, Obama would be good for the country, and the vote alone, by itself, Was and IS a sign of the good of the country … does respect mean telling us we never saw or heard such things … that we are lying and making things up?
Does respect mean telling people who have watched, closely, the political scene for longer than Obama has been alive, people who were willing and happy to donate time and effort and ideas, people who had and have good, indeed wonderful, ideas, ideas that still must be implemented to avert serious economic and social disaster, that they are “effing r*****s”, in need of a drug test, and of “getting” a “real” life?
Does respect mean peddling fear?
Or does “respect” mean something else perhaps, like appreciation, or at least, tolerance AND the understanding that people who do not agree with you are, possibly, neither stupid nor uninformed?
Apparently, what phred suggested, regarding a party having actual accomplishments and a moral compass is less important than “winning”, when such “winning” simply means more of the same.
Frankly, AC2, it matters little who is in power because the “system” is so corrupt, economically and legally, specifically as regards the rule of law, as Obama has continued and extended the worst of the Bush-Cheney Executive power grab, and the military has far to much power, politically and, in terms of the amount of the nation’s “wealth and treasure”, a stranglehold on the nation’s “looking forward” future, that regardless of who is in “power”, as they are both essentially the same, in spite of YOUR assertions that, somehow, they are not … our society faces very hard times … and to be brutally honest … the pain ought to be shared equally, and the blame, let’s not put it on “progressives”, or even the T-baggers, but on those who have had and do have power, especially Obama who had, despite those who dispute it, a genuine and heartfelt mandate to actually make some changes, which as President, with majorities in both the House and Senate, as well as each and every one of those “Democratic” Senators and Representatives, he and the Democrats COULD have done?
At the very least, respect means not calling others stupid or blaming them for the failures of others.
When the spill in the Gulf occurred, certain pundits intoned, “We are all responsible for this catastrophe.”
But look who is still in business, the largest supplier to the US military, aka Bee Pee.
When the economic meltdown occurred, certain pundits intoned, “It was those who could not afford these homes, but really we are all to blame.”
But look who is getting huge, actually obscene, “bonuses”?
Now you can say, “It’s systemic, and the D’s can’t fix it over-night”
Righto, AC2, righto.
Wonder when they plan to start?
Righto, right after they defeat the awful, evil R’s … well soon thereafter, anyhow.
But it’s hard, doncha know?
Righto.
Now, you will note, AC2, that at no point did I take you, personally, to task or suggest that it will be your fault if disaster befalls us? Nor did phred, for that matter.
Those who differ from you have never said you are to blame, yet you, and other partisans who agree with your viewpoint, charge us with such “responsibility” constantly and consistently,
Nobody “lost” 2000, but the Dems, Gore and Lieberman.
Frankly, AC2, I voted AGAINST Lieberman AND Gore’s apparently happy choice of Lieberman as his running-mate.
And, you know, just between us, AC2, Gore’s behavior, during Bush v. Gore, was not inspiring, to say the least.
Kind of cowardly, like the D’s in general, and certain ones, in particular.
These times, clearly, call for courage and bold innovation, not capitulation to selfish greed, mindless fear, and state secrecy, “secret” law and killing at a distance on the whims of one man or woman. Democrat or Republican. The President of the United States of America.
In my opinion.
DW
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Does respecting the opinions of others include despising others, of implying that others will be at fault if the awful Rethugs, whom Obama has been, you will recall, courting with “bipartisanship”?
Does respect entail telling us that what we saw, in print, of Obama’s clear promises, what we heard with our own ears, of Obama’s promises, an Obama many worked for thinking that, as a black man, Obama would be good for the country, and the vote alone, by itself, Was and IS a sign of the good of the country … does respect mean telling us we never saw or heard such things … that we are lying and making things up?
Does respect mean telling people who have watched, closely, the political scene for longer than Obama has been alive, people who were willing and happy to donate time and effort and ideas, people who had and have good, indeed wonderful, ideas, ideas that still must be implemented to avert serious economic and social disaster, that they are “effing r*****s”, in need of a drug test, and of “getting” a “real” life?
Does respect mean peddling fear?
Or does “respect” mean something else perhaps, like appreciation, or at least, tolerance AND the understanding that people who do not agree with you are, possibly, neither stupid nor uninformed?
Apparently, what phred suggested, regarding a party having actual accomplishments and a moral compass is less important than “winning”, when such “winning” simply means more of the same.
Frankly, AC2, it matters little who is in power because the “system” is so corrupt, economically and legally, specifically as regards the rule of law, as Obama has continued and extended the worst of the Bush-Cheney Executive power grab, and the military has far to much power, politically and, in terms of the amount of the nation’s “wealth and treasure”, a stranglehold on the nation’s “looking forward” future, that regardless of who is in “power”, as they are both essentially the same, in spite of YOUR assertions that, somehow, they are not … our society faces very hard times … and to be brutally honest … the pain ought to be shared equally, and the blame, let’s not put it on “progressives”, or even the T-baggers, but on those who have had and do have power, especially Obama who had, despite those who dispute it, a genuine and heartfelt mandate to actually make some changes, which as President, with majorities in both the House and Senate, as well as each and every one of those “Democratic” Senators and Representatives, he and the Democrats COULD have done?
At the very least, respect means not calling others stupid or blaming them for the failures of others.
When the spill in the Gulf occurred, certain pundits intoned, “We are all responsible for this catastrophe.”
But look who is still in business, the largest supplier to the US military, aka Bee Pee.
When the economic meltdown occurred, certain pundits intoned, “It was those who could not afford these homes, but really we are all to blame.”
But look who is getting huge, actually obscene, “bonuses”?
Now you can say, “It’s systemic, and the D’s can’t fix it over-night”
Righto, AC2, righto.
Wonder when they plan to start?
Righto, right after they defeat the awful, evil R’s … well soon thereafter, anyhow.
But it’s hard, doncha know?
Righto.
Now, you will note, AC2, that at no point did I take you, personally, to task or suggest that it will be your fault if disaster befalls us? Nor did phred, for that matter.
Those who differ from you have never said you are to blame, yet you, and other partisans who agree with your viewpoint, charge us with such “responsibility” constantly and consistently,
Nobody “lost” 2000, but the Dems, Gore and Lieberman.
Frankly, AC2, I voted AGAINST Lieberman AND Gore’s apparently happy choice of Lieberman as his running-mate.
And, you know, just between us, AC2, Gore’s behavior, during Bush v. Gore, was not inspiring, to say the least.
Kind of cowardly, like the D’s in general, and certain ones, in particular.
These times, clearly, call for courage and bold innovation, not capitulation to selfish greed, mindless fear, and state secrecy, “secret” law and killing at a distance on the whims of one man or woman. Democrat or Republican. The President of the United States of America.
In my opinion.
DW
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